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Re: Trees and Princes

Laurel wrote "Of course the book is better.  Is this a  bait and switch

It is wonderful that some  one agrees that the book is better than the movie
before they see the movie. Their opinion may be different than mine.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion,  people are not entitled to
deliberate misstatements of facts.

Bait and switch it is exactly what is being are suggesting with "As my
daughter said though, "Who is going to go see a statue of a jarl--(most
people thinking...whatever that is)?  But a statue of a Prince has much more
status and drawing power..............But the goal is to get people to
Nosshead to learn about him (whom we call a prince).  If at that point it
can be clearly explained that his title in that day was certainly Jarl with
power given from the Norwegian King, etc., our goal to publicize his
achievements will be more successful."

Presbrey, Frank History and Development of Advertising, Doubleday, Doran &
Company, Inc. Garden City, New York, 1929
McKendrick, Neil The Birth of a Consumer Society, Indiana University Press,
Bloomington, Indiana, 1985 Turner, E. S. The Shocking History of
Advertising! E. P. Dutton, Inc., New York, 1953 Davis, Alec Package and
Print, Clarkson N. Potter, Inc., New York, 1967

Henry was not a Prince. That's is not nit picking.  It is factual.  It is a
dishonour to him and historically incorrect to call him one.  History
involves facts not  wild runs of imagination or speculation.  Henry and
other knights congregated in Venice to crusade in Egypt. Henry went to
Jerusalem and was subsequently called "Henry the Holy" on his return to
Scotland he inherited Rosslyn; in 1379 he was made Earl of Orkney by the
King of Norway. Henry  in about 1390, with a fleet of 13 ships set out to
Shetland and the Faeroes on behalf of the Norwegian crown on a mission to
collect rent. Henry met the Venetian Nicolo Zeno shipwrecked, perhaps on
Fair Isle.

No doubt that the Zenos were a wealthy Venetian seagoing family whose
trading would have involved the extension of Venetian state interests
including piracy and slave trading. The Venetians were skilled navigators.
They developed good compasses, early traverse tables, and useful charts.
Antonio, a brother equipped a ship and sailed to Orkney.

In 1393 Nicolo went to Greenland with the Orkney Bishop, during which time
he surveyed much of the southern coast. On returning with the Bishop from
Gardar, Nicolo died.   Antonio stayed on to take part in a remarkable voyage
across the Atlantic. About 1360 an Englishman and geographer Nicholas of
Lynne voyaged to Greenland and the Arctic.  Nicholas of Lynne produced
(Inventio Fortunatae) and a new map of the Atlantic (Pope Urban's map).
Urban's map is dated 1367. Venice and was produced by the  Pizzigano

England and Iceland and Greenland had trade developing. This trade in turn
encouraged pirates, who not only stole goods, but also traded in slaves, to
operate in the area.

The Zeno Narrative states that fishermen from Greenland, fishing on the
Canadian Grand Banks, were caught in a storm and driven south. Indians
captured them. Their skills were valuable to these people - especially the
use of nets. One of the fishermen escaped and ended up in Norway, where he
came in contact with Henry, and offered to act as pilot on an expedition
west. The sailor died before Henry departed.

In May 1398 Henry left for Faroes, and reached probably Nova Scotia 18 days
later. The Zeno Narrative describes a landscape very like that of Louisburg,
Cape Breton Island, where an ancient cannon was discovered in 1849. This
cannon is virtually identical to a 14th century Venetian cannon now in the
Naval Museum at the Arsenale in Venice and the implication is that it could
only have come from there, as no one else made guns like that. Most of
Henry's fleet returned home and that Henry, Antonio and some of his
men returned in 1400, having built a new ship in Canada.

Now tell me about the non existent 9 Sinclair knights at Hastings. Perhaps
that is nit picking or is it history?

(from Cambridge International Dictionary of English)

history (PAST EVENTS)
(the study of or a record or story of) past events considered together, esp.
events or developments of a particular period, country or subject

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spirit One Email" <laurel@spiritone.com>
To: <sinclair@quarterman.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Trees and Princes

> Of course the book is better.  Is this a  bait and switch also??

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