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Thank you Ward Ginn, I like your theory on Charlemagne and his descendents. I think as you say "He probably had no more descendants than most men and women of his time, but because the births, marriages and deaths of his descendants were recorded down to the present, Charlemagne's descendants, in the millions, can today be identified. For the common man of his time, however, the lines of descent were not recorded and are thus lost to us all." Seems to me to be the more logical reason for his popularity in Genealogy lines. But dear Ward, I don't know about this statement below that you made " but it is not because Charlemagne was different from any other man of his time in sexual prowess or whatever." Clearly if this is the case, then that is enough proof to show definitively that Charlemagne has no family connection with the SINCLAIR family at all! Because every Sinclair will tell you that we are sexually magnificent. :-) above all others! Then there is another thought on all this. Imagine if all the common men of his time did have their entire genealogy line in complete immaculate order just like those of Charlemagne. Do you think I would really tell you that I can trace my family back to "Big Jack" better known as Jack the drunk, who died in his very own bed of pee at the age of 93. I think not. I wonna be from the blood of Vikings I prefer to think of a crown upon my families head, not to have them drown in bed. Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ward Ginn" <wginn@cox.rr.com> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Genealogy > Annie asked, "How did Charlemagne become known as the main ancestor > from which Europeans come from? > > It is true that there are thousands of people alive today that claim > decadency from this Carolingian king, but it is not because [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html