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>Dear John > >I happily accept Papal Bulls as primary source material giving the church's >view on events at that time and as accuate statements of how the curch >wished its position to be perceived. Furthermore, they are reinforced by the >documentary record as to how, what and when the church followed them up by >other actions. Good. The reference I cited cites in turn the papal bull approving the Knights of Christ in Portugal. >Now, there is a vast wide yawning chasm of vaildity and credibility between >documents ofthat nauture and modern publications by the church attemting to >whitewash its well recorded actions in history and minimise their >imposrtance or impact. Is there? Does the reference I cited accurately reflect that papal bull, or not? You assume with no evidence that it doesn't. If it doesn't, say how it doesn't. >To continue to compare modern documentation which is published to sustain >the faith, or apologise for the terrors of the past, with official staments >of church policy in the form of Papal Bulls and Encyclicals of the Middle >Ages is, quite frankly, ludicrous. So I guess you've also changed your review of Dungeon, Fire, and Sword from "quite frankly, superb" to "ludicrous". John S. Quarterman <jsq@quarterman.org>