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You can find a version of the the story of the Saltire, Scotland's National flag, in the Scottish Section of my website www.iain-laird.co.uk . This Cross is not engrailed, though, and was inspired by two white clouds crossing to form the Cross of St Andrew at the Battle of Athelstaneford in 832 AD. This is why our flag is a white St Andrew's Cross on a sky blue background. The blue of the Union Flag is too dark, but we have King James VI to thank for that as he designed it! Yours aye Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francine Bernier" <f_bernier@videotron.ca> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: St Andrew's cross & skull/bones I am also interested in Saint Andrew's engrailed cross. I have read about it on the Sinclair website but the story about a «vision» during battle sounds more like a legend than an fact. Again, this engrailed cross can be found in Belgium's Flanders in a small and very old village on several tumsbtones, many with a skull & crossed bones. Could this engrailed cross and/or skull & crossbones have been brought to Scotland by Knights Tmemplar in the early 1300's? Can anyone give me some references where to look? Thanks! [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html