Re: Catherine St Clair?

[Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>]

At 09:33 20/09/01 +1000, you wrote:
>I received this from another list today.
>As it relates to Catherine St Clair.
>Cany anyone comment on this?
>
>Regards
>Bruce
>
>I've come across a very useful book by Thierry Leroy entitled "Hugues
>de Payns, Chevalier Champenoise, foundateur de l'Ordre des Templiers"
>(Troyes: editions de la Maison du Boulanger, 1997).
>
>It's not a large book (165 text pages), and most of it is focused on

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You say that Hughes married an Elizabeth de Chappes but go on to say
that two children were born to Catherine and Hughes.

Was this a slip ?

Only this week, I attended a lecture given by Prince Michael of Albany
in which he re-iterated that Hughes de Payen was married to a Catherine
St Clair.  He stressed that this lady was not one of the Scottish Sinclairs
but was from Normandy.

It is also known that they travelled to Scotland during the reign of David !.

Nevertheless, in the light of the information which you have given, I will
endeavour to trace Elizabeth de Chappes.  I am more anxious in arriving
at the truth than I am in linking Hughes with Catherine St Clair which is
a matter of little consequence when looking at history as a whole.

Thanks,

Niven


>Also of note is an entry dated 1244 of a gift given to a man named
>Perrin by Marie, Dame de Payns, witnessed by her uncle and guardian,
>the chevalier Pierre de l'Orme...


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