Re: Leif Ericsson and such...

[Gordon Holmes <lafleur@home.com>]

Actually, Neil..That was my point..Leif wandered though the eastern
seaboard while Columbus had journey's to islands Off the mainland. 
A great Main argument you make, Neil, when you talk of the growth of
knowledge. Who did win W.W.II or who could lay claim to civilization,
for starters. I was taught that Civilized people had to have the
following: written language, working of metal into tools, the ability to
set up a permanent or series of permanent settlements and trade, war and
diplomatic machines. My definition does not jive with Mr. Webbers in the
5th grade. The spread of knowledge did not depend on his criteria...But
I may be wrong..Cousin Gord...

Neil Sinclair/Peggy Rintoul wrote:
> 
> Dear Gord; such is the plight of rather poor teaching of history in both
> Canada and America. But factually Chris is not believed to have ever reached
> the mainland, and Lief did also make it past Greenland. The real issue under
> lies this in my perspective, that is the social and developmental historical
> perspective that is focused on the growth of knowledge and the spread of
> ideas. Neil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Holmes" <lafleur@home.com>
> To: <sinclair@matrix.net>
> Sent: 21 June, 2000 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Leif Ericsson and such...
> 
> > I. (on Canada's West Coast) was taught that Columbus was the first
> > Euopean to visit America but that Leif Erricson made the first trip
> > here, going down the east coast, but that was unofficial, whatever That
> > means)...and Cris did not even visit the mainland..Boyoboy...Cousin Gord
> >
> > Peter Dillon wrote:
> > >
> > > ditto when I was a kid in the 60s.  I'm a kiwi too.  Except that we were
> > > told that Leif Ericsson discovered Greenland and might have been as far
> as
> > > America.
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:         Judith Harper[SMTP:j.harper@internet.co.nz]
> > > > Reply To:     sinclair@matrix.net
> > > > Sent:         Wednesday, 21 June 2000 21:00
> > > > To:   sinclair@matrix.net
> > > > Subject:      Re: Leif Ericsson and such...
> > > >
> > > > This is an interesting thread about Leif Ericsson discovering N
> America.
> > > >
> > > > Way  down  here at the edge of the earth we were also taught that  and
> it
> > > > always surprised me to hear anyone thought anything different. (And it
> is
> > > > a
> > > > looong time since I was young!)
> > > >
> > > > While I'm here - Thanks to all you interesting people for all I learn
> from
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Judith Harper
> > > > New Zealand
> > > >
> > > >
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