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Re: Bruce's heart

Dear Bruce,
   Answering #3 first.   I have wondered that also.  It doesn't make sense
to me either.  I have wondered what the exact words were that Bruce said.
Surely he wouldn't have sent his dearest commrades to their certain deaths
and even, as you say, they did sneak into Jerusalem dressed in disguise,
they could easily have been discovered when they started digging.  This just
seems inconsistent with what we know about his love for his fellow knights.
    So, what were the exact words that Bruce said on his death bed?   Could
it have been, "Promise me that you will carry my heart into battle against
the Moors(or Moslems or enemy)?"  In the case of a battle, it would be
assumed that these men would have enough Knights with them to protect  them
and be able to return again.

----- Original Message -----
From: bruce carlyon <Bruce_Carlyon@syncsoft.com.au>
To: 'sinclair@mids.org' <sinclair@matrix.net>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Sinclair Dates

> Can anyone answer these two questions?
> 1. Where did Thomas Green and Gunner do there pirating, and for how
> long?  Oak Island has a plaque with 1704 written on it.
> Could they have written it and been in on the secret?
> April 11. In 1705: Green hanged. Thomas Green, captain of the Worcester,
> hanged on Leith Sands with his mate and gunner,    having been found
> of pirating the Speedy Return..
> 2. With regard to Robert the Bruce was having his heart
> returned to Jerusalem.  I am wondering why?
> This might be answered with religous motivations, but what would they be?
> Was it because it was the site of Christ's crucifixion or for other
> Such as the Holy City and site of the Temple was the spiritual heart of
> Knight Templar who assured his victory at Bannockburn?  This seems more
> likely than the above christain convictions, considering that he was
> excummunicated by the Pope, and isolated from most of Christain Europe.
> If my hunch about this is correct then the speculation as to why his heart
> was going to Jerusalem becomes much more meaningful.
> The implications would still be greater than those that I have provided
> above, but it starts a platform that others might like to help build on.
> Comments form you all would be appreciated, particularly Niven, Tim
> Wallace-Murphy, John Quarterman and Bill Buhler.
> The last point on this is that at the time of his death, Jerusalem and the
> Holy Land had been lost to the Muslims.  The Templars had had been psuhed
> out of their holdings there and later dissolved.
> Just how the hell did the Sinclairs and Douglasses expect to get into
> Jerusalem?
> Would it be like burying an Englishman in Berlin during the battle of
> Britain.
> Even if they could get in to the city, how would they get permission to
> the heart of a christain king?
> But the biggest question seems to me is WHERE EXACTLY did they intend to
> bury the heart of Robert the Bruce??  Can anyone answer this one?  It
> really important in understanding what was going on.  A trip like this
> have been meticulously planned.  I suspect the ports of call would be old
> Templar holdings until Jerusalem and then, they must have had a safe-house
> in Jerusalem or an continuing agreement with the Muslims regarding certain
> property held in Jerusalem.
> Go to go, my three children, five years and under all want their  Dad to
> feed them Breakfast and stop typing.
> Regards
> Bruce Carlyon
> Melbourne, Australia.
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