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I've often thought that this list is more like a littoral, as in
a shore of the vast sea of erudition that its subscribers represent....

John

>You are correct I bow to age before beauty I even think you are prettier =
>than I.
>
>Sinclair
>  ----- Original Message -----=20
>  From: Niven Sinclair=20
>  To: sinclair@matrix.net=20
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:05 PM
>  Subject: Re: Clan Memberships
>
>
>  At 19:31 02/05/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>    Niven check the word Clan litteral translation "Children"
>    =20
>    Sinclair
>
>  Check the word literal.
>
>  Niven
>
>
>
>      ----- Original Message -----=20
>      From: Niven Sinclair=20
>      To: sinclair@matrix.net=20
>      Cc: Milamba@milamba.com ; sinclair@matrix.net=20
>      Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:09 PM
>      Subject: Re: Clan Memberships
>
>      At 00:10 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:
>
>        Hello Scottie,
>
>        Welcome to the Sinclair list!  Where do you hail from?  That's =
>very true you know - a clan is not an incorporated body - I don't =
>rightly recall anyone saying it was!  BUT a Clan Association generally =
>is an incorporated body, and I believe there was mention of Clan =
>Associations rather than Clans per se.  And it's great to hear your =
>world is about being alive! :)  Hopefully everyone's is!
>
>        Regards
>        Margaret :)
>
>        At 11:16 PM 2/05/00, you wrote:
>
>
>          I don't know about other people but I'm not motley.  I am a =
>Clansman.  I support my Chief.  A Clan is not a legal incorporated body. =
> It IS a family.  As far as I'm concerned, I'm related to every Sinclair =
>there is!  Your world may be about bits of paper, mine's about being =
>ALIVE!=20
>          =20
>          -Scottie
>
>
>      Scottie,
>
>      I'm glad you are "alive" otherwise you e-mail might have suggested =
>a message from
>      the other side.
>
>      Alas, so many people are dead but don't know it or have committed =
>partial suicide by
>      failing to realise and, thereby, release the true talents which =
>lie within each and everyone =20
>      of us.
>
>      Yes, a Clan is a family (it actually means a family in Gaelic) and =
>we are luckier than most in
>      having a family which spans the World and which has a lineage =
>which we can be traced back
>      for over a thousand years. =20
>
>      Indeed, in a letter written by Henry, Lord Sinclair from Shetland =
>to King John of Denmark on
>      12th July, 1507 he takes us back even further because he wrote:
>
>                              "....even in relation to the Earldom of =
>Orkney and Hietland
>                              (Shetland) which lands for certain =
>services to be done to the
>                              Kings of Norway were alienated heritably =
>to my progenitors
>                              even before the birth of Christ"
>
>      The House of Odin was eventually heired by the Sinclairs through =
>two of the sons of
>      Rogenwald, the premier 'jarl' of Norway.
>
>      Through Hrolf 'the Ganger'  (known universally as Rollo) we gain =
>our Norman descent
>      and our name of St Clair because the Treaty which he signed with =
>Charles 'the Simple'
>      of France was signed at Castle St Clair-sur-Epte.
>
>      Through his younger brother, Einar, who became the 'jarl' of =
>Orkney, we gain our Norse
>      descent because the descendants of these two brothers, Sir William =
>St Clair of Rosslyn
>      and Isabel, the daughter of Malise II of Orkney, married and gave =
>birth to a son who
>      inherited his Orcadian 'jarldom' through his mother and his =
>Scottish Estates through
>      his father.
>
>      This man was Prince Henry Sinclair who made a momentous voyage to =
>the New World
>      in 1398 - almost 100 years before Columbus.
>
>       Most of you already know this but it deserves to be repeated =
>again and again until
>      this PrInce of Men eventually gets his rightful place in history.
>                             =20
>      Scottie, please join me and other Sinclairs in this great Crusade. =
> It doesn't matter  if
>      we belong to a Clan Society, a Clan Association or a Clan Trust - =
>they key factor is to
>      belong, to participate, to be alive (as you say) and in spreading =
>the word to the younger
>      generation so that they, too, might be proud to bear the name of =
>Sinclair (and the
>      responsibilities and duties which go with it).
>
>      Leave the semantics to other people.
>
>      Niven Sinclair                 =20
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT size=3D2>You are correct I bow to age before beauty I even =
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>  <A href=3D"mailto:niven@niven.co.uk" title=3Dniven@niven.co.uk>Niven =
>Sinclair</A>=20
>  </DIV>
>  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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>  title=3Dsinclair@matrix.net>sinclair@matrix.net</A> </DIV>
>  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 02, 2000 =
>8:05 PM</DIV>
>  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Clan =
>Memberships</DIV>
>  <DIV><BR></DIV>At 19:31 02/05/00 +0100, you wrote:<BR><FONT size=3D2>
>  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">Niven check the word Clan litteral =
>translation=20
>    "Children"</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT=20
>  size=3D2>Sinclair</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Check the word=20
>  literal.<BR><BR>Niven<BR><BR><BR>
>  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">
>    <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">----- Original Message ----- =
><BR><B>From:</B>=20
>      <A href=3D"mailto:niven@niven.co.uk">Niven Sinclair</A> =
><BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
>      href=3D"mailto:sinclair@matrix.net">sinclair@matrix.net</A> =
><BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
>      <A href=3D"mailto:Milamba@milamba.com">Milamba@milamba.com</A> ; =
><A=20
>      href=3D"mailto:sinclair@matrix.net">sinclair@matrix.net</A> =
><BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
>      Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:09 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Clan=20
>      Memberships<BR><BR>At 00:10 03/05/00 +1000, you wrote:<BR>
>      <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">Hello Scottie,<BR><BR>Welcome to =
>the=20
>        Sinclair list!&nbsp; Where do you hail from?&nbsp; That's very =
>true you=20
>        know - a clan is not an incorporated body - I don't rightly =
>recall=20
>        anyone saying it was!&nbsp; BUT a Clan Association generally is =
>an=20
>        incorporated body, and I believe there was mention of Clan =
>Associations=20
>        rather than Clans per se.&nbsp; And it's great to hear your =
>world is=20
>        about being alive! :)&nbsp; Hopefully everyone's=20
>        is!<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Margaret :)<BR><BR>At 11:16 PM 2/05/00, =
>you=20
>        wrote:<BR>
>        <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite"><BR><FONT size=3D2>I don't know =
>about other=20
>          people but I'm not motley.&nbsp; I am a Clansman.&nbsp; I =
>support my=20
>          Chief.&nbsp; A Clan is not a legal incorporated body.&nbsp; It =
>IS a=20
>          family.&nbsp; As far as I'm concerned, I'm related to every =
>Sinclair=20
>          there is!&nbsp; Your world may be about bits of paper, mine's =
>about=20
>          being ALIVE! </FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT=20
>        =
>size=3D2>-Scottie</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Scottie,<BR><BR=
>>I'm=20
>      glad you are "alive" otherwise you e-mail might have suggested a =
>message=20
>      from<BR>the other side.<BR><BR>Alas, so many people are dead but =
>don't=20
>      know it or have committed partial suicide by<BR>failing to realise =
>and,=20
>      thereby, release the true talents which lie within each and =
>everyone&nbsp;=20
>      <BR><FONT size=3D2>of us.<BR><BR>Yes, a Clan is a family (it =
>actually means=20
>      a family in Gaelic) and we are luckier than most in<BR>having a =
>family=20
>      which spans the World and which has a lineage which we can be =
>traced=20
>      back<BR>for over a thousand years.&nbsp; <BR><BR>Indeed, in a =
>letter=20
>      written by Henry, Lord Sinclair from Shetland to King John of =
>Denmark=20
>      on<BR>12th July, 1507 he takes us back even further because he=20
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>be alive=20
>      (as you say) and in spreading the word to the =
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