Re: religion on the Sinclair list and web pages

[Lena A L <lal@algonet.se>]

Ken W Sinclair wrote:
> 
> Religion has caused more human suffering and torment, than human greed.


And it still does!!!!!!!! Ever heard of Kosovo!!!

Regards Lena


> Anyone who believe`s in an unforgiving God can see other people harassed and
> tortured for blasphemy.(for their own good of course)
> It is wonderful to live in this enlighten`d, modern world where we do not
> have to worry about being burnt at the stake for Unbelief.
> Ken W Sinclair
> 
> > Hello John et al,
> > I rarely contribute to this discussion list but have been following it for
> > some time. So let me put in my two cents worth. My religious beliefs or
> lack
> > thereof is no one's business but my own and my personal God's. And it is
> my
> > personal definition of what and who God is or isn't.
> > To quote the comedian George Carlin: " religion is like a pair of shoes.
> > Yours may fit you but don't make me wear them. And lets not go out nailing
> > shoes on the natives." So let's leave the religious arguments where they
> > belong. Within ourselves.
> > Brian Sinclair, Ontario Canada
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
> > To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
> > Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 8:21 AM
> > Subject: religion on the Sinclair list and web pages
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >I was afraid this would happen when I added the religion web pages.
> > >That's why I included this disclaimer:
> > > This set of web pages is a place to put information about religious
> events
> > > and dogma that affected Sinclair history and genealogy.
> > > Religion and politics are notoriously divisive subjects,
> > > so let me hasten to say at the outset that opinions from many
> > > different people will be represented here, and I do not confirm,
> > > deny, attest, or refute any of them, except where I explicitly
> > > say so. --jsq
> > >
> > >I suggest we apply a similar disclaimer to religious postings on the
> > >discussion list.
> > >
> > >Let's back up and think about this a little.
> > >
> > >There have been allusions to the Jesus and Magdalene parentage story
> > >in the book list in the web pages and in links related to Templars
> > >for quite some time.  Probably most Sinclairs are aware that that's
> > >what the Baigent Holy Blood Holy Grail book is about.  So the story
> > >is nothing new.
> > >
> > >It's also just a story, not to mention one that is generally rejected
> > >by most scholars who have attempted to check what that books says.
> > >
> > >There are also links to various Muslim pages.  Muslims believe that
> > >Jesus was just a prophet.
> > >
> > >There are also links to various Jewish pages.  Jews don't even believe
> > >that Jesus was a prophet.
> > >
> > >There are links to Cathar information.  The Cathars didn't believe Jesus
> > >was a human.
> > >
> > >There are links to Hindu information.  Some Hindus believe Jesus was
> > >an avatar of Vishnu.
> > >
> > >Then there are Buddhists, for whom Jesus has no particular significance.
> > >
> > >And that's only a small sample of beliefs that are out there.
> > >
> > >Should I remove all these links, and should no one mention any of these
> > >things on the list?  I think it's safe to say that some of them are
> > >considered blasphemous by some people on the list.
> > >
> > >However, please remember that none of you are being asked to believe any
> > >of them.  At least, I hope not.  Religious proselytizing is probably
> > >beyond the scope of this list.
> > >
> > >But some or all of the above beliefs are related to topics that are
> > >relevant to Sinclairs, which is why they are mentioned in the web pages
> > >and why discussion of them on this list is relevant.  This is a family
> > >whose motto is Commit Thy Work to God.  Religion (of more than one kind)
> > >is inextricably intertwined with the history of the Sinclair family.
> > >
> > >I, for one, see no difficulty with anyone describing any of the above
> > >(or other) beliefs or stories, and also no difficulty with anyone saying
> > >they don't believe them.  But I would hope that we can all do those
> things
> > >with civility.  And could we all refrain from overgeneralizations such
> > >as "All Sinclairs believe," as well as from overreactions whenever
> somebody
> > >does slip and post something like that.
> > >
> > >If we can't do that, Niven's idea of a separate list for such matters
> > >may be what we will need to do.
> > >
> > >Comments?  Opinions?  Suggestions?
> > >
> > >John
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> > >
> >
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