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Rory--Thanks. We took a tour of Scotland, with everybody on the bus named either Sinclair or Keith. I'm not a big fan of tours, but this was very nice. Even the weather cooperated. As we all know, the weather in Scotland is always bright and sunny, like it is here in Seattle. I'm not sure of the spelling of his last name. I do remember distinctly that either his first or middle name was Sinclair, not St. Clair, but this may have also been for us "Sinclairs". His wife was Swedish. Yes, I believe the manor was in Fife, not far from St. Andrews, as you say. Hard to find. Down a long lane; difficult for the coach driver (I used to drive a bus myself, so appreciate this). One of the interesting things about the manor was that one of the former owners had a portrait made of himself, and liked it so much he had the artist do all the previous owners. However, since they were long gone, they all looked just like him. Imagine that! Only difference was in the clothing, which wasn't all that different. Again, I'm not much for tours, but this was well done. We went from Glasgow up through Fife and Inverness, Skye, and back. Took the boat down Loch Ness. I have a picture of Nellie, although she is about a half mile in the distance. Thanks again. Mike Sinclair ----- Original Message ----- From: Rory Sinclair <rory.sinclair@rogers.com> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Ivan of Trafalgar again with an added note > Dear Mike: > If it is whom I think you mean, he is St. Clair Bonde (pron. as you had it > Bundee) > He is a descendant of the William the Waster, son of William St. Clair 3rd [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html