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Dear Mike: If it is whom I think you mean, he is St. Clair Bonde (pron. as you had it Bundee) He is a descendant of the William the Waster, son of William St. Clair 3rd and last Sinclair Earl of Orkney and of Rosslyn. It is complicated but St. Clair's ancestor, the Master of St.Clair was as they say so quaintly in Scotland, 'out' in the '15 which means he fought for James the Old Pretender father of Bonnie Prince Charlie. For his efforts, the estate was attainted and unlike so many others the title was never restored and the ancestors of the present Lord Sinclair inherited at this time. The Estate is called Charlton and is in Fife not far from St. Andrews and is full of his family's memorabilia. eg. secret tokens for Jacobite meetings during the 1715 rebellion. St. Clair Bonde is descended through his grandmother, I believe, who married into the Swedish nobility. Rory in Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sinclair" <sthelens@earthlink.net> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Ivan of Trafalgar again with an added note > I've traced my ancestry to the area around Loch Tay. Can someone tell me > briefly how the Sinclairs there relate to those at Caithness and also > Roslyn? > > Also, last time we were in Scotland, we visited a Sinclair Manor; believe [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html