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It looks like Charlemagne connects with our tree at 2 different points. First would be as an ancestor of Poppe, consort of Guillaume Longue-épée (William Longsword), if this connection is indeed correct. The second point would be as an ancestor of Robert le Bruce's wife, Isabel de Clare.This Robert was the grandfather of the Robert who became King of Scots. I believe the infusion of Charlemagne's blood into the Scots had major consequences. His g-g-g-grandfather was Saint Arnulf. Of course, he is better known as the Patron Saint of Brewers. Witness this miracle: "At a time of plague, Arnold is said to have immersed his crucifix in a brew-kettle; thus encouraging the populace to drink beer, rather than water. Suddenly, the plague ended". ( from http://realbeer.com/library/beerbreak/archives/beerbreak20010726.html ) A more sedate history is found here: http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainta2s.htm Arnulf's son Anchises married Saint Begga. Begga's sister was Saint Gertrude. The sisters' parents are Blessed Pepin and Blessed Ida ( or Bleary if they were adherents of Arnulf.) )(more at http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainti15.htm) Oddly enough, it would not be until the American Civil War that a definite connection between boiling water and disease was discovered in the Navy during the blockade.It was noticed that sailors who drank the reclaimed water from the steamships stayed healthier than those that did not. (see Dennis Ringle's "Life In Mr. Lincoln's Navy"). Before this, there was beer. One reason why colonists were so quick to establish breweries. Another case of man interfering in Divine work. Take care, Kevin [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html