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Sinclair, Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure what you are saying about sectret societies? I'm not sure what the masonic bent is that you have adopted. Your reply was confusing. I think its important to note that the masonic motiffs within the chapel are only a minority of those symbols depicted there. This does not discount a connection through to freemasonry, in fact, as I have said, it supports the argument of a direct connection. It is not just a case of is it the birth-place of freemasonry? It runs along the line of the collective guilds themselves, the stone-masons, the operatives, the speculatives, the Templar influences (direct/indirect; its arguable), the requirements of others, rosicrucian, platoists, OT themes, Green men, Nordic themes, Euclidian mathematics, proportions, depictions of corn and aloe etc, etc. There was so much material (Prime Matter) drawn into the construction, beauty and artwork of teh chapel through the genius of William, that to look at the direct link to freemasonry, tends to be too myopic IMHO. Wiiliam spent the majority of his efforts depicting things not tied into freemasonry. But it is still a masonic jewel, radiating other streams of lights as well. There are streams and streams of underground thought displayed there. The Masonic motiffs abound, but they are in the minority. As to secret societies; well the secrets are very few. The organisations are very open in all other respects. I hold far more secrets in my daily life; my bank account balances, things I relate to people in business, security codes, family moments, etc etc. However, I'm not labelled as a secretive person for carrying these secrets. We all do. However to relate the history of freemasonry as a secret held by ourselves is a nonsense. But, additionally, to prove our historicity remains unclear through the lack of substantial and detailed eveidence. The conclusion we are form the guilds is fine. >From the stne-masons is fine. >From the Gentry looking for admission into operative lodge is fine. IMHO alll identifiable sources contributed something to greater or lesser degrees, but we cannot be sure exactly as to how much. Regards Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Sinclair [mailto:labehotierre@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 5:26 PM To: sinclair@quarterman.org Subject: William's Information Dear Bruce Looking for the date of Freemasonry's establishment bears, for me, only on the 'Master Mason' title of William. Glen Cook and John Lilly together with Mel Sinclair's South Carolina site show that the early charters were Guild [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html