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Dear Sinclair: Calm down! The term "minimally invasive" could be better understood as the difference between quadruple bypass surgery and a simple balloon catheterization. The former would be "extremely invasive," while the latter, BY COMPARISON, would be "minimally invasive." A minimally invasive investigation into the site at Temple, subject of course to other suggestions when the time for that investiagion got somewhat on its way, would have entailed mortar samples from both above and below the inscribed stone (and also from select other parts lower on the ruin) -- nothing that couldn't be patched up BETTER than it was before. Analysis of organic matter present in the mortar would then be conducted with the same care that was taken when the infamous "shroud" was analyzed -- more than one analysis by labs with no axe to grind, as well as Historic Scotland's lab. Such a minimally invasive investigation might reveal the "verifiable evidence" that some might require. NOT a likely happening! I have a theory about Nostradamus but, as I've said, you'll have to wait for the book. The influence of the "stars" are another matter. I'm willing to talk about the stars as they relate to my Battle of Bannockburn article if, and when, anyone besides myself finds the subject interesting enough to talk about. I'm also willing to quote chapter and verse about the several other Sinclair witches I BRIEFLY listed at the end of my witchcraft post a while back. I was personally not surprised that no one on the Sinclair discussion list asked me to elaborate more on them (I have quite a bit more documentation). Members of clan genealogy groups quite typically (and sadly quite naturally) want to connect their own thin lines back to the bright lights of history, and have little use for what might be found in darker corners of the wider, and ultimately more important paths of history. All Best! Jeff Sinclair wrote: > What is "minimally invasive". America sounds like Nostradamus. Could he > have been influenced by the 'Stars'? > > Sinclair > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeffnpat" <jeffnpat@nis.net> > To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:08 AM > Subject: Re: Knights Templar suppression > > > Dear Tim: > > [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html