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Earl Henry was referred to as 'Prince' in the Zeno Narrative which, although published much later, was based upon letters written at the time of Henry's rule. Furthermore the Zeno family, whih has produced one Doge of Venice s well a cardinal, had no need to curry favour with anyone, much less impress others by inflating the importance of their associates or allies. The Zenos were well established, weathy far beyond the dreams of Earl Henry and among the selcet few who were the true rulers of Venice. The Zeno letters are undoubtedly authentic and I would take their estimation of the importance of Henry St Clair, first St Clair Jarl of Orkney, at more or less face value. Undoubtedly by English standards, for whatever they may be worth, Henry was no Prince. Nor was he a 'gentleman' by eglish definition. According to Dr Johnson's firts Egnlish dictioanry a gentleman was defined as a male member of the English race with a capital of more than two hundred pounds - which certainly ruled out Henry St Clair, as he was not English, as firmly as rules me out as I am neither English nor do I have capital of over two hundred pounds. Best wishes Tim [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html