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"Nobility and aristocracy. An evaluation of the concepts used by Norwegian historians writing about the nobility at the time of the Reformation When reading Norwegian historians, one gets the impression that the Norwegian nobility was non-existent in the late Middle Ages and during the Reformation, or, that Norwegian nobles were so poor that they could only be considered as farmers. This evaluation has to be seen against the background the concern of Norwegian historians with explaining the decline of Norway in the late Middle Ages and the loss of independence as a consequence of the union with Denmark. In this connection it is natural to compare the Norwegian nobility with the Danish nobility. The article demonstrates that Norwegian nobility was poorer than its Danish brethren. But an overview of conditions in European countries shows that the Norwegian situation had much in common with important parts of Europe at the time. The majority of noblemen were poor, and the boundaries between nobility and non-nobility were often unclear. Even in Denmark at the end of the late Middle Ages, the nobility was not such an exclusive group as it became after the Reformation. In Norway, however, very few aristocrats can be found that are comparable to the elite in Denmark and other European countries. But even the poorer Norwegian noblemen usually owned much larger properties than the farmers. To speak of the nobility as "actually farmers" is therefore misleading.Nobility and aristocracy. An evaluation of the concepts used by Norwegian historians writing about the nobility at the time of the Reformation When reading Norwegian historians, one gets the impression that the Norwegian nobility was non-existent in the late Middle Ages and during the Reformation, or, that Norwegian nobles were so poor that they could only be considered as farmers. This evaluation has to be seen against the background the concern of Norwegian historians with explaining the decline of Norway in the late Middle Ages and the loss of independence as a consequence of the union with Denmark. In this connection it is natural to compare the Norwegian nobility with the Danish nobility. The article demonstrates that Norwegian nobility was poorer than its Danish brethren. But an overview of conditions in European countries shows that the Norwegian situation had much in common with important parts of Europe at the time. The majority of noblemen were poor, and the boundaries between nobility and non-nobility were often unclear. Even in Denmark at the end of the late Middle Ages, the nobility was not such an exclusive group as it became after the Reformation. In Norway, however, very few aristocrats can be found that are comparable to the elite in Denmark and other European countries. But even the poorer Norwegian noblemen usually owned much larger properties than the farmers. To speak of the nobility as "actually farmers" is therefore misleading." http://www.uit.no/ht/sum/984-3.html - this is also in Norwegian. See also "The Norwegian Nobility - survey of 1886 http://www.geocities.com/dagtho/nobility_survey.html" "Welcome to the English summary of vestlandsslekt.cjb.net, the place for people with ancestors from the western part of Norway. Here you'll also find information about norwegian nobility.http://home.no.net/vls/public_html/English/" Yours aye Iain [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html