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Jeff, and some others, To me the Knights of the Temple died with the death of the organization so many centuries ago. It is now a Masonic organization as part of the York Rite. The mystical is not for me, fun to read, but hard to visualize. The more mystical parts of the Christian religion for the same reason are hard to swallow whole. So if I don't respond to the mystical, please forgive, I respect your ideas, but do not join with you. Now, if you want to delve into the very real - a person may not be born unless he/she has parents and then attempt to find those parents of 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th centuries, when records could be very spotty, if at all other than the family itself retaining record of children being born - now That! is the hunting ground! To the people looking for Virginia Sinclairs - there are at least three within the Northern Virginia area, where are you looking? Warmest regards, Sally [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html