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In a message dated 12/8/2001 7:55:16 AM Mountain Standard Time, esdemio@worldnet.att.net writes: > Jeff, and some others, To me the Knights of the Temple died with the > death of the organization so many centuries ago. It is now a Masonic > organization as part of the York Rite To be just a little more precise, there is a degree of Knight Templar in Freemasonry. It makes no pretense at being descended from the Order. It only emulates their ideals. There are also many, many <revived> Knight Templar groups, some of which allege they are an order. Glen Cook