Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?

["Spirit One Email" <laurel@spiritone.com>]

GOOD -
Now that's real documentation!  Is there a date for the church?
Laurel
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?


>
>In message <010d01bea094$f9065ba0$7cf382d0@laurelfe>, Spirit One Email
><laurel@spiritone.com> writes
>>
>>Jean,
>>    Do you have more information on this first Baptist Church in northern
>>Scotland?  Baptists have a custom, as do other churches, of naming the
first
>>church built in each city "First Baptist Church".  So we might wonder
>>whether it was one of these namings instead of really being the first
church
>>built in northern Scotland.  But certainly, somwhere there had to be a
first
>>Baptist church built.
>>    I wonder about a "Sinclair" building it.  Doesn't that usually mean
that
>>this person provided the funds? But weren't the Sinclair Earls the only
ones
>>that would have had enough money to finance such a venture?  Were any of
the
>>Earl's a Baptist?
>> Sometime a pastor will be linked with the building because he was the
>>driving force to get it done.  Or it could be that a Sinclair was chairman
>>of the Deacon Board or it could be that a Sinclair was one of the founding
>>members.  Probably it never meant that one person built it himself (I know
>>you didn't say that).  So I just wonder what the story would be about this
>>event?
>>Laurel
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
>>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>>Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 7:50 AM
>>Subject: Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?
>No - the church was not named "first" as you do - we don't have that
>tradition in Scotland.  I can assure that it was the first Baptist
>church to be founded in Scotland.  It was built by a local landowner,
>Sir William Sinclair.  He did have enough money to build the church
>although in later years he got into financial difficulties and lost much
>of his land.  The church is still there and still in use, my
>grandparents worshipped there.  The church is Keiss baptist church,
>Keiss being the name of the village where it is located.  I can assure
>you I have got its origins right because of my close family connections
>with it and because a friend of mine who is a Baptist minister and a
>well respected church historian (PhD from St Andrew's University) did
>the research..
>>
>>
>>>
>>>In message <2373c94.36f6ccd2@aol.com>, Plumpett@aol.com writes
>>>>
>>>>I have read recently that a Sinclair built the first Baptist Church in
>>>>northern Scotland !
>>>>
>>>>Since  the first article on this site that raised the Baptist question
>>>>occurred several days later , I didn't note the specific details for
later
>>>>reference.
>>>>
>>>>To address the inquiry that first raised this issue , it would seem
>>consistent
>>>>with this finding that a specific religious affiliation could provide a
>>>>valuable clue in finding roots in a family line .
>>>>
>>>>I would confirm other list member's comments that the religious
>>affiliations
>>>>were often fluid in this country . My own Sinclair line in the USA was
>>first
>>>>found to be
>>>>Methodist- Episcopal , then Episcopal .
>>>>
>>>>A daughter then married into a line with Quaker , Baptist and
Presbyterian
>>>>member !
>>>>
>>>>Joe Greigg
>>>>
>>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net.
>>>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>>
>>>It is very difficult to reply from a Scottish perspective  I am not sure
>>>what you mean by fluid - the major change came at the REFORMATION - when
>>>the forces of protestantism came to be dominant in Britain as a whole
>>>and Henry the Eighth renounced his catholic faith and became head of the
>>>Church of England.  Now, there were splits  within the Protestant
>>>teaching and from that came such groupf as the Baptists, the
>>>Congregationalists ets.
>>>I've learnt in the time of being part of the Sinclair network that
>>>direct. existing contacts with people in Scotland are of comparatively
>>>little interest.  I can understand this since we are so remote and
>>>possibly so few in number and our more dirsct links with the past
>>>history of the Sinclairs  and with present possible family links  in the
>>>States and canada etc. are difficult to establish.
>>>Anyway I think I'll ubsubscribe for now since most folks find Scotland
>>>and its denizens just a tad remote.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jean Haddow
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>>>
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