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Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11

You have missed it completely - there was no profit in the "little book".
It was a gift to those I chose to give it to.  It was a book about my own
family and had no business being on the internet whatsoever.  I felt it was
a terrible breach of ettiquette - to say the very least.  The other members
of my family felt the same way.

As to my books - they will never be gone completely as I have given copies
to people in every single branch in case I die or my house should burn.  The
people I very carefully chose were those who have also worked for years and
years.  In addition, my grandson comes over every weekend and backs up all
the new information I put in each week.  I found it strange that you are
asking everyone to contribute to your data base and yet immediately state
that only two persons have access to it.  My Archives was listed in an
UPDATE and all my books (58 unpublished ones) will be placed in a well
publicized library upon my death and the entire world will know where it is.
However, it will not be copied by anyone for their own purposes.

I get the feeling you have taken this personally and it was meant for all
subscribers and not any particular person.
----- Original Message -----
From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com>
To: <sinclair@mids.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11

>    This is an experience I have had with family genealogies.   Violet
>wrote a history of  the Bruces from Frederick Co., VA which is my husband's
>line.  Unfortunately my in-laws were too cheap to buy the book when she
>offered it and now she is deceased.  The Bruce Clan of USA Historian had a
>copy but his widow claims it is a personal copy and so it wasn't sent on to
>the new Historian (among other things).  Then her house was burned down and
>all the historical records were lost.
>    Now we come along looking for the book but find no clue where it can be
>found today.  There doesn't seem to be any descendants or anyone
>representing the book.  If we were to find it, what then?  Are we not to
>copy it?  Will all her research be lost forever?  It is very possible that
>some of the sources she found, might become lost also so the next person
>doing the research over again will come up with a different set of
>Are you feeling that someone was profiting from the small family genealogy
>that you mentioned?  This is, of course, hind sight, but knowing this could
>happen now,  perhaps a clear statement that this was a private printing and
>should not be copied because it represented only a small select segment of
>the family and thus the information would be quite incorrect when viewing
>the family as a whole.   But, of course, that doesn't guarantee that
>will honor your words.
>I think the data base is important, otherwise, every generation will have
>"reinvent the wheel", ie, do the research over and over.  What futility!!!
>Since we all have about the same allotted time to live,  each generation
>without the work of the previous, can not make progress.  Many times this
>previous generation is not even known to us.  I think there are few
>where you have in every generation a person willing to keep the records and
>continue the research.  So it is necessary to search out these distant
>researchers and continue the work.  The world wide data base is a tool that
>can accomplish this.
>    I hope I haven't  missed the point that you are trying to make???
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jean Grigsby <jgrigsby@bcni.net>
>To: sinclair@mids.org <sinclair@mids.org>
>Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 9:53 AM
>Subject: Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11
>>My feelings derive from the many, many people who have requested that
>>family history not be used for public consumption.  I can still recall my
>>nephew calling me late one night as he had found my parents (his
>>grandparents) listed on a website and only one child listed - me.  He was
>>extremely upset and to be quite frank so was I.  I had never heard of the
>>person and when contacted he admitted he had copied the data from a small
>>family book I had published in 1970 - 29 years ago.  I had only made 10
>>copies for family members and unfortunately one of the recipients passed
>>away and during this 20 year period it had ended up in an  "in-laws"
>hands -
>>a person not even related to the family.  No, this was not my St. Clair
>>of the family but it is an example of the lack of integrity floating the
>>My name, address, and date were typed on the title page so there could be
>>confusion that this was a personal family history book.
>>This has become a concern for most professional genealogists and most of
>>them are simply refusing to share their material.  I refuse to allow a few
>>to disrupt what I feel is an important goal - hence my refusal to send out
>>material on any branch unless the person requesting the material is a
>>descendant of that branch.
>>Perhaps others will be as honest as I have been and state their true
>>or perceived need for a world-wide data base on the internet ?
>>I seem to be the only person willing to bring it out other than a selected
>>list of "respondees".  Do any others on the site have any feelings on the
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Lena A L <lal@algonet.se>
>>To: <sinclair@mids.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 4:50 AM
>>Subject: Re: Sinclair Genealogy Digest Number 11
>>>Hi Jean,
>>>Jean Grigsby wrote:
>>>> A suggestion.  Instead of duplicating what others have already done (ie
>>>> copying or duplicating the work of others), why don't all of us search
>>>> the unfound and unrecorded records.
>>>That is of course my main goal but that does not exclude the importance
>>>of making  as much Sinclair material as possible accessable/searchable
>>>in a database, or when it comes to material that's subject to copywrite
>>>referenses to it.
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