Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?

["Spirit One Email" <laurel@spiritone.com>]

Thanks,  It's wonderful how here and there is a bit of information that
finally gets all put together.  John is preparing just the place to store
this information on religion.
Laurel
-----Original Message-----
From: David & Gloria Bouschor <haggis@skypoint.com>
To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?


>
>Dear Jean and Laurel,
>    The Sinclairs of Kiess were Baptists.  The old Kiess was used for
>Baptist Services by one of the owners.  These were supposedly the first
>baptist Services in Caithness.
>        Yours Aye, David
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 5:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?
>
>
>>
>>In message <010d01bea094$f9065ba0$7cf382d0@laurelfe>, Spirit One Email
>><laurel@spiritone.com> writes
>>>
>>>Jean,
>>>    Do you have more information on this first Baptist Church in northern
>>>Scotland?  Baptists have a custom, as do other churches, of naming the
>first
>>>church built in each city "First Baptist Church".  So we might wonder
>>>whether it was one of these namings instead of really being the first
>church
>>>built in northern Scotland.  But certainly, somwhere there had to be a
>first
>>>Baptist church built.
>>>    I wonder about a "Sinclair" building it.  Doesn't that usually mean
>that
>>>this person provided the funds? But weren't the Sinclair Earls the only
>ones
>>>that would have had enough money to finance such a venture?  Were any of
>the
>>>Earl's a Baptist?
>>> Sometime a pastor will be linked with the building because he was the
>>>driving force to get it done.  Or it could be that a Sinclair was
chairman
>>>of the Deacon Board or it could be that a Sinclair was one of the
founding
>>>members.  Probably it never meant that one person built it himself (I
know
>>>you didn't say that).  So I just wonder what the story would be about
this
>>>event?
>>>Laurel
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
>>>To: sinclair@jump.net <sinclair@jump.net>
>>>Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 7:50 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Baptist Religion--A hint?
>>No - the church was not named "first" as you do - we don't have that
>>tradition in Scotland.  I can assure that it was the first Baptist
>>church to be founded in Scotland.  It was built by a local landowner,
>>Sir William Sinclair.  He did have enough money to build the church
>>although in later years he got into financial difficulties and lost much
>>of his land.  The church is still there and still in use, my
>>grandparents worshipped there.  The church is Keiss baptist church,
>>Keiss being the name of the village where it is located.  I can assure
>>you I have got its origins right because of my close family connections
>>with it and because a friend of mine who is a Baptist minister and a
>>well respected church historian (PhD from St Andrew's University) did
>>the research..
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In message <2373c94.36f6ccd2@aol.com>, Plumpett@aol.com writes
>>>>>
>>>>>I have read recently that a Sinclair built the first Baptist Church in
>>>>>northern Scotland !
>>>>>
>>>>>Since  the first article on this site that raised the Baptist question
>>>>>occurred several days later , I didn't note the specific details for
>later
>>>>>reference.
>>>>>
>>>>>To address the inquiry that first raised this issue , it would seem
>>>consistent
>>>>>with this finding that a specific religious affiliation could provide a
>>>>>valuable clue in finding roots in a family line .
>>>>>
>>>>>I would confirm other list member's comments that the religious
>>>affiliations
>>>>>were often fluid in this country . My own Sinclair line in the USA was
>>>first
>>>>>found to be
>>>>>Methodist- Episcopal , then Episcopal .
>>>>>
>>>>>A daughter then married into a line with Quaker , Baptist and
>Presbyterian
>>>>>member !
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe Greigg
>>>>>
>>>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net.
>>>>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>>>
>>>>It is very difficult to reply from a Scottish perspective  I am not sure
>>>>what you mean by fluid - the major change came at the REFORMATION - when
>>>>the forces of protestantism came to be dominant in Britain as a whole
>>>>and Henry the Eighth renounced his catholic faith and became head of the
>>>>Church of England.  Now, there were splits  within the Protestant
>>>>teaching and from that came such groupf as the Baptists, the
>>>>Congregationalists ets.
>>>>I've learnt in the time of being part of the Sinclair network that
>>>>direct. existing contacts with people in Scotland are of comparatively
>>>>little interest.  I can understand this since we are so remote and
>>>>possibly so few in number and our more dirsct links with the past
>>>>history of the Sinclairs  and with present possible family links  in the
>>>>States and canada etc. are difficult to establish.
>>>>Anyway I think I'll ubsubscribe for now since most folks find Scotland
>>>>and its denizens just a tad remote.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jean Haddow
>>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net.
>>>>[ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>--
>>Jean Haddow
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>>
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