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Re: Papl Mandate 1329
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To: Sinclair, Lord of Keswick
Why should it be so amusing to know that Tariq Aziz is, in fact, a
Christian? Many Arabs are Christians, as it happens. Perhaps if more
people in the west realized this, they would be less likely to be so
anti-arab. That said, religion is no basis on which to judge whether or
not a person is good, bad, moral or immoral, clever or stupid .
Unfortunately, regardless of the fact that both Christianity and Islam
preach tolerance of those different than themselves (Islam, in fact,
preaches that Muslims should be tolerant of those of ALL faiths and
itself incorporates much of Christianity and Judaism into it's tenants.)
these two seem to be always at odds with each other. Christians dislike
Muslims and Muslims return that dislike, both without even knowing very
much about the other. Knowledge is the key. If we all would simply take
the time to learn more about each other, I think we would find that we
all have a good deal in COMMON, in addition to those things that make us
different. Just take this Sinclair mailing list for example. All of us
who participate come from different walks of life in different parts of
the globe and yet we all have at least one thing in common - our
Sinclair ancestry - which makes many of us related in one way or
another. Let's look for the things that we have in common, the things
that we can share and that will bring us together - not the things that
make us different and pull us apart.
Kristin Alynn Hussein
(mother: Linda Irene Sinclair, grandfather: John Ward Sinclair II, g
grandfather: John Ward Sinclair I, gg grandfather: Robert Sinclair,
etc., etc. etc.......)
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Sinclair, Lord of Keswick wrote:
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> John Sinclair Q
>
> Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it. Tarik is a very
> Arabic
> name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact
> Christian.
>
> Sinclair
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
> Date: 29 October 1998 17:11
> Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
>
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> >
> >>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa
>
> Othello
> >>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a
> Moor
> "Gib
> >>the Tar"
> >
> >Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik.
> >
> >The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place
> >in Spain. They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's
> >heart, as he had requested. They couldn't refuse a request by a
> >Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors. The Moors thought
> >them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies,
> >or at least that's what one version says.
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
> >>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
> >>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27
> >>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
> >>
> >>
> >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net.
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> >>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html
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> >>>
> >>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw
> >>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes
> >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list,
> sinclair@zilker.net.
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> >>>>-------
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi Laurel
> >>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already
> sent.
> >>>>The moors
> >>>
> >>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors". As a Scot, living
> in
> >>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair, and peripheral to the debate,
> I'd
> >>>be glad of a more precise definition.
> >>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase,
> >>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas
> with
> Sir
> >>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but
> finding
> the
> >>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of
> escape,
> >>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a
> silver
> >>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying
> "
> pass
> >>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He
> then
> >>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds
> were to
> >>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his
> brother
> >>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart.
> His
> >>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully
> returned.
> >>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey.
> >>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose
> Abbey
> >>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story,
> >>>>interesting stuff if you ask me.
> >>>>Mark :-)
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