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RE: Papl Mandate 1329
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It's also often spelled Tariq.
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> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:28 PM
> To: sinclair@zilker.net
> Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
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> John Sinclair Q
>
> Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it. Tarik is a very Arabic
> name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact
> Christian.
>
> Sinclair
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
> Date: 29 October 1998 17:11
> Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
>
>
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> >
> >>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa
> Othello
> >>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a Moor
> "Gib
> >>the Tar"
> >
> >Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik.
> >
> >The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place
> >in Spain. They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's
> >heart, as he had requested. They couldn't refuse a request by a
> >Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors. The Moors thought
> >them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies,
> >or at least that's what one version says.
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
> >>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
> >>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27
> >>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
> >>
> >>
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> >>>
> >>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw
> >>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes
> >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net.
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> >>>>
> >>>>Hi Laurel
> >>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already
> sent.
> >>>>The moors
> >>>
> >>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors". As a Scot, living in
> >>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair, and peripheral to the debate, I'd
> >>>be glad of a more precise definition.
> >>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase,
> >>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas with
> Sir
> >>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but finding
> the
> >>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of
> escape,
> >>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a
> silver
> >>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying "
> pass
> >>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He
> then
> >>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds were to
> >>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his
> brother
> >>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. His
> >>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully
> returned.
> >>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey.
> >>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose
> Abbey
> >>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story,
> >>>>interesting stuff if you ask me.
> >>>>Mark :-)
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