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I was busy in the kitchen just now and answered part of my own question-of course the KT's had something to do with the gypsies- the tarot, whose actual intended uses may have been more than telling fortunes. I was reading over the wkend about St Marie de la Mer and them gathering there. Must of been a route they traveled (around and out of sight of the numerous battles). We know it took them to Rosslyn. Where else. For what else. Hmm -Gay Dvorak [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html