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Gary, Steve, John, and all: Two points ..... 1) comment regarding Yahoo and Topica lists, and most importantly 2) possible archived message issues on Yahoo type lists ... read on. 1) Gary, regarding the comment in your message below regarding Yahoo and Topica.... there have also been many to move from Yahoo Groups to Topica for various reasons and remain at Topica. (I think that similar problems exist with Ford and Chevrolet.) I've had absolutely no problems with SPAM or other problems while administering 160+ subscribers on a Topica list. Also, there are no advertisements on the messages, except a one liner (no graphics). I also assist a friend who manages a Sailing list on Topica. No problems. I have not managed a list on Yahoo, so I can't comment on actually running a Yahoo list. I did research the two options and Topica works well for me. Of course, one could set up a list on either and have SPAM problems ..... setting the list up properly, I believe, is the key. <g> I'm not advocating Yahoo, Topica, or any other method, for the Sinclair Discussions, however I wanted to point out that my experience with Topica.com has been excellent and it is a quality service for purposes such as discussion lists. 2) Regarding the archived messages from the group, I've never visited John Q's archives and don't know the search capabilities, etc. Although messages are archived on the Topica lists that I referred to earlier, I don't think that they can be "moved" if that were needed at some point. I think that they might just be lost. I'm not sure about Yahoo. Gary, can archived messages be "moved" to another server or service from Yahoo if you wanted to move the list at some point in the future? John Q's list has had a wealth of information "e-mailed" during the past 5 years. We don't want to lose these gems, nor do we want to possibly lose the bounty that is yet to come. Let's consider a method that can handle this information and can be "moved" if needed in the future (as others may elect to pass the torch!). Perhaps Steve's method could provide that for the Discussion list. Again, I'm not sure about moving old e-mail messages, etc. from Yahoo to another list. Gary? I'm glad that Gary and Steve have stepped up to the plate. I'm sure that we'll end up at the right place. Steve, per your earlier e-mail to this Group, I'd be happy to help you "field test" a list/website. Mel of South Carolina -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinclair@quarterman.org [mailto:owner-sinclair@quarterman.org] On Behalf Of Gary M. Sinclair, Harwich MA, USA Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:58 PM To: sinclair@quarterman.org Subject: Re: list move Steve, <snip> The experiences I have had with Yahoo Groups have been positive. A list I belonged to moved from Yahoo to Topica and [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html