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Having read thru the archives I came across a question regarding the rooster and a possible explanation being 'singing out clearly'. This really doesn't seem a likely explanation to me, and I would like to suggest another possibility. Given the Templar background of the family, and a rooster 'heralding' or announcing the 'light' ' the morning star' -is this possibly a very very well hidden reference to John the Baptist? -Gay Dvorak [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html