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Dear Mrs Sandy Sinclair Your defence of my freedom of speech is stirring and I do thank you for that. I respect your ideas but you have however performed the bowdlerisation of my statements neatly. I had written "We, as victors, imposed a humiliation of the vanquished that allowed the rise of Hitler" How that statement can be related to your statement, "Ex. The deeds of Hitler were caused by the humiliation of the Treaty of WW I. (No truth to this statement. It was his personal decision to put forth a Super Race to conquer the world as well as to annihilate 9 million Jews.)" leave me wondering? There was no such statement made. The atrocious deeds of Hitler were not mentioned. Today 12 November 1923 Adolf Hitler was arrested for attempting to seize power on 8 November. The rise of Hitler in Germany was caused for the most part by the German economic havoc and the super inflation that unprecedented scale of the war payments demanded by European Powers allowed the ground to be fertile for the Nazi party rise. The Dawes plan of 1924 said that reparation payment should begin at 1 billion marks for the first year and should rise over a period of four years to 2.5 billion marks per year, that the German Reichsbank be reorganized under Allied supervision, and that the sources for the reparation money should include transportation, excise, and custom taxes. The plan had been in effect until 1929 and contributed to the improvement of Germany's economy and her remilitarisation. In 1929, in the conditions of the Great Depression, it became obvious that Germany could no longer continue those annual payments, especially over an indefinite period of time. Therefore a new version of the plan was worked out, known as the Young plan. It set the total reparations at $26,350,000,000 to be paid over a period of 58 years and was adopted by the Allies in 1930. The annuities were to be raised through a transportation tax and from the budget. No sooner had the plan gone into effect, than Germany felt the full impact of economic depression, and a moratorium was called for the fiscal year 1931-1932. After Adolf Hitler took over Germany, he repudiated the unpaid reparations debt, and no further payments were ever made. The Americans did not share the views the British and European governments. The killing of 9 million Gypsy and Jews were after the criminal Hitler had come to power. The American President Woodrow Wilson, was a voice of reason as Europeans called for a pound of flesh. Wilson presented 14 points in a speech to the American Congress. The speach ended "For such arrangements and covenants we are willing to fight and to continue to fight until they are achieved; but only because we wish the right to prevail and desire a just and stable peace such as can be secured only by removing the chief provocations to war, which this programme does remove. We have no jealousy of German greatness, and there is nothing in this programme that impairs it. We grudge her no achievement or distinction of learning or of pacific enterprise such as have made her record very bright and very enviable. We do not wish to injure her or to block in any way her legitimate influence or power. We do not wish to fight her either with arms or with hostile arrangements of trade if she is willing to associate herself with us and the other peace- loving nations of the world in covenants of justice and law and fair dealing. We wish her only to accept a place of equality among the peoples of the world, -- the new world in which we now live, -- instead of a place of mastery. " Europe did not listen to him. America also did not. He was too much not of an idealist. He was to much of a realist. Wilson knew we lived in an interconnected world. Both of President Wilson's post-Armistice visits to Europe were overseen by the Committee on Public Information headed by George Cree with the result that Wilson was greeted with open adulation wherever he went. Creel's efforts also ensured a high degree of popularity in Europe for Wilson's Fourteen Points. In 1934 Creel stood for the Democratic Party's nomination for governor of California. He lost the nomination to Upton Sinclair. You wrote Ex. The body bags and burnt youth streaming home to Australia from Bali were caused by someone bucking for a high popularity rating. (That attack in Bali clearly was caused by some personal decisions made by terrorists to kill and injure people.) I had written "Body bags and burnt youth streaming home to Australia from Bali, American Marines attacked in Kuwait a French oil tanker assaulted off the coast of Yemen are too high a price to pay for popularity ratings." There is no implication in my statement of any responsibility of the attacks being laid to any politician who is capitalising on tragic events. I do not think that the attacks listed were caused by personal decisions the attack appear to be part of the evil of Al Qaeda and the attempt to build an Islamic super state. You wrote "Ex. The "War on Terror" has been so far a failure. (Not true! ....)" The stated objective of the 'War on Terror' was to eliminate bin Laden and his organisation. Bin Laden is unaccounted for. The Taliban leader is at large. The American CIA and Pentagon state that Al Qaeda is reconstituting itself with fresh recruits and better organisation. Is this success? The letter you quoted is spot on to the conditions in Afghanistan. America is not alone there are other troops in Afghanistan British, Canadian, French, Greek and others are there. The attempt to forge a sovereign nation in Afghanistan is commendable. Terrorising the Iraqis people as Saddam and his cabal of 100,000 live comfortable lives is not.. Your citation from "Striving" is excellent but to follow it we must find what is positive. Sinclair ref: Mayer, Arno J. Politics and Diplomacy of Peacemaking: Containment and Counterrevolution at Versailles, 1918-1919. New York: Harcourt, 1967 [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html