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I don't plan to contribute further to the KT thread, but I'd like to try to clarify one point. As stated in my earlier e-mail, the Knights Templar "degree" is the top 'rung' of the York Rite. You can't be "more or less of a Knights Templar". It's kind of like being a little bit pregnant .... you either are or you are not. One does not become a KT in any lesser degree. There is no higher York Rite (or KT) degree. The only time "levels" would come into play is if one went beyond the local Commandery to serve on the State level or National level. Even in that case, he is not "more of a Knights Templar". One can't join the state or national level as those are appointed or elected positions. If one is a KT, he is by definition at the highest level of the York Rite. If he serves on the State or National level, he still has no higher York Rite degree than that of KT. Level refers to organizational level, not degree (order). More information regarding the Masonic Knights Templar, including a FAQ, can be found at: http://www.knightstemplar.org/ Since you live in the DC area (as I once did) The Virginia Knights Templar website is at: http://users.sitestar.net/~mfulcher/GCVA.htm Contact information is also noted. The Grand Commander of Virginia's photo, in uniform, is on the page. I could not find an active website for the District of Columbia KT. Of course, as Sally said, actually talking to someone locally who is knowledgeable could be your best bet to pursue more light. Aye, Mel of South Carolina -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinclair@quarterman.org [mailto:owner-sinclair@quarterman.org] On Behalf Of Sally Spangler Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:58 AM To: sinclair@quarterman.com Subject: two comments/statements Susan - the shortest way to get your answer on Knights Templar would be to look them up in the phone book and call the Temple here in the area (as we both live in the greater DC area). They can give you the whole answer and maybe answer at which of the three levels your progenitor was on. My father was also a member of the same order, on the lowest 'rung' so to speak. [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html