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Dear Joe; First let me compliment you on the many fine ideas, thoughts and perceptions that you have shared with the list. While my projects do not allow me time to post to the list a lot, I do read with interest the wisdom you and all the others are sharing. Turning to the issue of the Argyll Sinclairs your ideas are correct in that there is a lot of commonality between the Irish Sinclairs and the Argyll Sinclairs. As a short synopsis to the list, in early 1700 Mc'Nokiard was a common name and roughly translated means craftsman or tinkerer. Now when registration became more common followiing 1720 for births, a lot of Sinclairs became registered all through Argyll and surrounding parishes. Why and where they came from is and remains a mystery. The derevation does go back to Nokaird, but why and how is lost. The earliest recorded Sinclair was from the Duke of Argyll farm is late 1600's. Now I have assumed that this email discussing Sinclairs of Argyll is archived away with the Sinclair keepers of our list. I shall chase this down. John, no work from participants on the list has been done on Irish Sinclairs at all and while it makes logical sense that the Sinclairs of Argyll migrated to Ireland we are speculating. So you are staring off an interesting new development if you want to trace the Irish Sinclairs and something that is well worth while. Neil Sinclair [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html