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Dear Tim, This is true. I had also thought of Samson who took down the Temple of Dagon in Gaza. He was harolded as a great hero in Israel. It is just the idea of "Salvation" being obtained through suicidal mean while destroying the enemy which seems so sad. Stan -----Original Message----- From: twallace-murphy <twallace-murphy@supanet.com> To: sinclair@quarterman.org <sinclair@quarterman.org> Date: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Mohammed in the bedroom! >Dear Stanley, > >The obtaining of a guarenteed one-way ticket to heaven as a result of dying >in battle with the ifidels is not restricted to Isalam. The Crusaders had >the same belief - which sits rather odlly on the shoulders of those who [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html