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Dear Sinclair, The Directory of Royal Genealogical Data for Hull University, a more reliable source than many, has Richard II married three times. The children you list, plus an unnamed daughter appear as born to his marriage to Judith of Brittany. The next marriage, to Edith (Margaret) of Denmark shows no children. The third wife, Papia of Envermeu has three children posted: Mauger of Rouen, Archbishop of Rouen (obviously no children), WIlliam of Arques, Count of Arques, and a daughter with her mother's name. Yet many sources show Mauger as the father of Waldron. I would like to see some valid verification of this. Can anyone help? Stan -----Original Message----- From: Sinclair <labehotiere@wanadoo.fr> To: sinclair@quarterman.org <sinclair@quarterman.org> Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Seduction >Dear Stanley > >The problem is that Richard II Duke of Normandy Born: About 958 A.D, >Normandy Married to Judith Died: 28 August 1027 A.D., l'Abbaye de Fecamp >had no child named Mauger. His children were Adelaide (Judith) of Normandy [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html