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"Governments enforced prayer will fragment parents, teachers, school governors and ultimately the students. Rather than teach values and morals, school prayer could result in confrontations over who and what is considered "holy". It can balkanise students into competing religious factions, and isolate the many students who have no religious beliefs whatsoever. You must have a certain admiration for a man who will swim against the current. A man whose beli......" Sinclair Many goverment funded schools around the world are secular, whilst most privately funded schools in areas I have seen are church orientated ( South Africa, Scotland, England and France ). Do the secular governments see the church(s) as a threat? Is there an advantage in governments giving poor education ( and of course religion at school level is an education although seldom a revelation) and no religious instruction? Does this provide easily led,stupid, compliant citizens? Does a private religious school provide better education? Many questions indeed. And the answer to all could be yes. Governments have often tried to control schools to their own ends. I suppose I could easily say that if you cannot supply a current for a man to swim against ( at school ) then how can you teach him to swim? Good schools provide the grounds for disbelief, questioning, and argument, and also provide rudimentary education in religion. Thus a godless child, from a godless home, can learn about a god at an early stage of his life. Then he can choose a direction to go when he should decide to swim. Mark [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html