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Tim, and Sinclair, While I certainly agree with you two regarding the issue of keeping a clear distinction between what we know, what we may reasonably surmise, and what we fantasize about, I'm not sure I would like to be included in the same group as Shaw. In my opinion the defining character of Shaw was his monumental arrogance, learned from the Uber-Mensch school of psuedo-intellectualism begun by by Rousseau, and popularized by Freud, Marx, and a host of twentieth century phony "wanna-be" intellectuals*. Not good company, and certainly no place for thoughtful scholars like Sinclair and Wallace-Murphy. ;-) Joe Erkes * Paul Johnson's book, "The Intellectuals", skewers these folks nicely. [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html