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To any who say that political discussion is off topic - you are right. I am equally guilty of such things. We had a good discussion on Geneva Convention some time ago and I was fully engaged in that. By the time it wound down, there was a general consensus that maybe it didn't belong where we had discussed it. To those who would like to continue the discussion, may I put forward an idea - our emails are visible, let us group together those emails and send out thoughts to those who wish to continue. All in favor - my email is at the top. Sally [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html