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Dear friends, I am reliably informed that Andrew Sinclair had absolutely nothing to do with the discoveryand/or rescue of the stone known as 'The King of Terrors'. Furthermore any of Andrew's claims to be the discoverer of anything to do with Rosslyn should be treated with a large pinch of salt. He claims credit for everything and never gives an accurate attribution for his so-called discoveries. The Masonic stone known as the King of Terros that rests in the crypt at Rosslyn was rediscovered in Old Pentland Graveyard by Martin Gordon in, or about, 1990. Niven heard about this, saw it and the two grave templar markers and, under his instruction, they were moved into the chapel for safe-keeping by 'The Friends of Rosslyn' about ten or eleven years ago. The King of Terrors dates from approximately 1600-1650. Other similar markers still can be found at Old Pentalnd churchyard and a similar stone from the same source may well have been in the chapel during the ninteeth century. The Templar graave marker that lies near the King of Terrors in the crypt is either an authentic Templar stone or, more probably, an early seventeenth century carving in the Templar tradition. It is difficult to decide as the large incision on its upper surface (designed to house a missing vertical stone) complicates the issue. This type of usage was virtualléy unknown in the true Templar era. Therefore the question remains was this an original Templar marker that was later modified or, alternatively a seventeenth century 'replica' to mark a masonic grave? An unanswerable problem for me at the moment. I hope this clarifies the question of provenance a little. Best wishes Tim -- Message sent with Supanet E-mail [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html