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>Thank you, John the article is most informative. It's also an abridged version of a derivative overview article, so I wouldn't put too much credence in it as any sort of authority. >... >The article also states that "Freemasons, of which the St Clairs were >hereditary Grand Masters, " from list's discussions it would appear to be a >speculation rather than a factual statement. Well, I've been trying to stay out of that, but I can't resist posting this paragraph from what may be a better source: ``In Scotland, it was very usual for influential gentlemen to be invited to join a trade guild. It became so common for the Scottish masons to invite the gentlemen of the St Clair family of Rosslyn to join their guild, that the St Clairs wrongly claimed that they had a hereditary right to exercise authority over the masons of Scotland. King James IV joined the Edinburgh Guild of Merchants in 1505; and sixty years later the Earl of Moray, the illegitimate half brother of Mary Queen of Scots, when Regent for the infant King James VI, joined the Baker's Company in Glasgow.'' --Jasper Ridley, The Freeemasons, p. 18. He cites Knopp and Jones, Genesis of Freemasonry, p. 97, and Lane, The Outwith London Guilds of Great Britain, 27, 31. The above passage is the only mention of St Clair or Sinclair cited in the index of Ridley's book. However, on page 4 he remarks that: ``In Scotland the mason's guilds were even older than in England. The Mason's Company of Glasgow was granted a charter, and the power and duty of regulating the trade, by King Malcolm Canmore in 1057, the year in which he won the throne by defeating and killing Macbeth. There was a guild of masons, or joint guilds which included masons, in Edinburgh, Elgin, Irvine, Kirkcudbright, Rutherglen, and probably also in Aberdeen and Dundee.'' He cites Lane as his source for the above passage. John S. Quarterman <jsq@quarterman.org> [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html