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dear Glen Cook Thank you for the links. The lodges appear in date order as; Mother Kilwinning (Kilwinning)Before1598 The Lodge of Edinburgh (Mary's Chapel) (Metropolitan)Before1598 The Lodge of Melrose St John (Roxburgh, Peebles and Selkirk es)Before1598 none appear as ancient how do we tie Earl Wiliam to them? John Lily informed us of the formation in France by Jacobites of Scottish rite how does that relate to these lodges? Sinclair ----- Original Message ----- From: <CookSLC@aol.com> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: Information [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html