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Dear Laurel, There is a ring of a great deal of truth in what you have said. At first, I thought you wouldn't reach Jeff, since he is off the list presently, but I see you have included him specifically in your addressees. There will always be two sides to every story, at minimum. The point about the family name is very valid. As it has been said, "The family name is St. Clair, the clan is Sinclair." Though for many the family name is also SInclair, and has been since 1455 with the creation of the Earls of Caithness. I am one who believes in the continuation of the Templars, though false groups have definately tried to lay claim to the title. And I don't want to resurrect that dead horse. I would be interested at some point in reading the book you mentioned by Peter Partner. By the way, Tim has a new email address, and you could get to him off-list as well. As always, Stan -----Original Message----- From: Spirit One Email <laurel@spiritone.com> To: Wallace-Murphy, Tim <sinclair@quarterman.org>; William S. Buehler <roslinne@fone.net>; Joe Erkes <erkesjoe@nycap.rr.com>; Ian of Noss Head <iansinclair@nosshead.freeserve.co.uk>; Iain Laird <iain.laird@totalise.co.uk>; Steve St. Clair <steve@planetcentral.com>; Rob Cohn <robc@hfx.andara.com>; Ritchie, John <RITCHIEKCT@aol.com>; Sinclair, Niven <niven@niven.co.uk>; Sinclair <labehotierre@wanadoo.fr>; Ginn, Ward <wginn@cox.rr.com>; Carlyon, Bruce <Bruce_Carlyon@syncsoft.com.au>; John S. Quarterman <jsq@matrix.net>; jeffnpat <jeffnpat@nis.net> Cc: Elaine Fowler-Kids page <esf@together.net> Date: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:58 PM [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html