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Greetings Cousins; The National Post in Canada featured this story today following a talk given by Gavin Menzies to the Royal Geographic Society last Friday. In his thesis Menzies maintained that Admiral Zheng He from China arrived in the Caribbean some 70 years prior to Columbus. Apparently it is established that the Chinese had reached the west side of Africa. Mr. Menzies is publishing the book and claims to have archeological proof that everyone is waiting for. I took a couple of observations from this. One is that members of this list will find the hypothetical reasoning not outrageous as we have collectively moved away from the established thinking of European Exploration as taught in the 1950's. The second is a wonderment as to a debate over " who was first" still persists. It seems this approach to history needs to be rethought and both Niven, and Sinclair have brought to the table the more important question of how did an adventure or exploration advance mans understanding or knowledge, and what happened or transpired afterward. And history and the advance of knowledge is more than a collection of first to's. There is rarely anyone that achieved a " First" without the foundation of pre existing knowledge to get them there in the first place. In this same vein the Menzies, and Pohls and Tim's of the world have been taking a view of the past that is not about " first to's" but point a finger to knowledge and exploration being a series of progressive steps that gradually accumulate knowledge and understanding by many individuals, some which we know of and many whose footsteps will forever be lost in the sands of time and with names never heard. Neil Sinclair Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley St. Clair" <srstclair@alltel.net> > >>I don't know what is so new about the idea that the Chineese sailed to > >>America before the Europeans. I read an article in an airline magazine on > >>this while on a plane enroute to Hawaii in the mid nineties. It didn't > >>surprise me then. [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html