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Dear Sinclair, I cannot address the veracity of the flag designs, I believe Niven contributed that article. The Orkney Chess-set contains another mystery. >From memory; the pawns contain one or more beserkers biting down on their long triangular shields. It is the design of the shields themselves that catches my attention. I have seen photographs of the shields that display a 8 spoked wheel set high on the shield, with a stem set below it. Tim Waalace-Murphy may be able to comment upon the significance of the numeber 8, beyond what I mention in my chess piece. This shield design is very similar to the Grail designs grave-slabs that Andrew Sinclair documented at Kilmartin. Which Andrew suggests carries the Grail motiff. What can we conclude from the numerous grave stones at Kilmartin that depict crusader-swords (Templar?) exactly like that of WSC within Rosslyn Chapel? Depicted with these swords are hammers/mallets (or mels), Rosettes, (mel-rose?), squares, compasses, chisels and alike. The question is whether we see the Grail icon as a Viking concept crossing into Templar use; or the Vikings having a proto-grail concept also? Kindest Regards Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Sinclair [mailto:labehotierre@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:05 AM To: sinclair@quarterman.org Subject: Re: Clan Sinclair USA Web Page Dear Bruce **Snipped Interesting theory but In the shop in London 'Past Times' they sell a reproduction of a 6th century Orkney chess set. This is at least 500 years older than the Crusades. Where did it come from? [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html