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My newer book - since I am reminded that I am in error - I changed to a newer book which lists the ash /Rowan as follows: European Ash - Sorbus aucuparia (Rowan) grows to 20-30 ft tall, max 50' "Reddish leaves and vivid red fruit clusters in fall make this a handsome specimum for lawns" Zone of growth is zones 3 and 4 to - 40 deg F.- the most northern tier of states American Ash - Sorbus americana grows to 20-30 ft tall. "Up to 15 leaflets form compound leaves, late spring flowers are white" Zone of growth is zones 3 and 4 - the most northern tier of states Korean Ash - Sorbus alnifolia grows to 25-35 ft tall (max 60) "Produces many flowers that measure up to 1 in across. In fall leaves turn orange to scarlet; berry clusters assume same colors. Bark is dark gray and smooth." Zone of growth zones 5 & 6 to -20 deg F All of which means it wont do well in Virginia south and westward. Needs cold weather. This citation comes from Reader's Digest Illustrated Guide to Gardening. Still have to know the latin name to buy the correct tree. Hum - they do change classifications on the latin names and conditions from time to time. I just read my older tree book, rather than a newer gardening book. Sorry y'all. Sally [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html