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Thank you SInclair, Between your reply and that of Niven, it has helped me to understand a question of long standing. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Sinclair <labehotierre@wanadoo.fr> To: sinclair@quarterman.org <sinclair@quarterman.org> Date: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: Bartholomew de Badlesmere > >Bartholomew de Badlesmere was hung at Canterbury, He joined a Rebellion led >by the Earl of Lancaster he was captured & hung. Edward II fought against >Scotland. He lost to Robertthe Bruce at Bannockburn in 1314. General >disorder followed in England. Edward's cousin, Thomas, earl of Lancaster [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html