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I think it may also be a play on words, as in the Norman French legend, the Cockrel is "Chanticler" = Chanter Clair = Sing Clair. Yours aye Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce carlyon" <Bruce_Carlyon@syncsoft.com.au> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: RE: New Topic Crest > It links into the name Saint Clair; Holy Light. > > The Cock/Rooster > It works with the 'Light'; > The coming of the dawn, [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html