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Greetings Cousins; This crest issue has me going. Symbols are picked for a reason. We know that the clan motto goes way way back to the building of Rosslyn if not before. But the adoption of heraldry was as I understand it later. Out Sinclair colors black engrailed cross go back I understand to Queen Margaret circa 1057. But the history of the crest is baffling. Now for students of Kipling and R.L. Stevenson, cock fighting and gaming was quite a sport. Put two male roosters in the same pen and bet on which rooster will kill the other. It was quite the Scottish and English sport in 1700-1800 and was specifically banned under various criminal code statutes in the 20th century. But Sinclair heraldry is unique and very ancient. Is there a symbol we are missing? Neil Sinclair Toronto [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html