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Watching the enlightenment of 2 fine minds I am so impressed with the quality and depth of the conversation. My deep respect for you John and Sinclair. Culture is a tough one to identify as it ties into so much of social, psychotically, and anthropological dimensions. One then has to look at culture from a myriad of perspectives. I am drawn back to education and understanding as the ways to combat cultures which are not enlightened, and hope that truth, knowledge and ideas are a way to look forward in a positive way. Neil Sinclair [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html