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Dear John The earliest reference that I know of is Duchsne, Historio Normannorum scriptores antiqui (Paris, 1619). Palgrave, Normandy and England (2 vols., 1851-57);also speaks of the story. I know of no contemporary records that still exist. Niven and Wallace-Murphy are much more ofey than I on Templar records. It takes a leap of faith that a celibate warrior Monk would have a wife. The physical evidence is in the granting of Scottish land to Hugues de Payns. That is not conclusive. It is circumstantial. I have been on a tear lately over the statement of 9 Sinclair (St Clair) knights at Hastings when I can find only one. I could not agree with more "The Sinclair family history is colourful and fascinating enough without us relying on myth's and half truths." The problem I see is that so much History before the Enlightenment is oral traditions. These stories are in the Scot's bard, English minstrel or French chanteur. Fact and fiction seem intermixed. Alba gu Deo! Sinclair ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN DUGUID" <John.Duguid@lineone.net> To: <sinclair@quarterman.org> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Hugh and Catherine >REF Baigent and Leigh, The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail Sir John Bernard Burke, Vicissitudes of Families and Other Essays William T. Still, New World Order Desmond Seward, The Monks of War Tim Wallace-Murphy & Marilyn Hopkins Rosslyn [ Excess quotations omitted. ] [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html