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Dear Neil, I am very much in accord with your view. And I think Roy also expressed this as well. Information ought to be shared; and being a mason does not translate to holding back information from others. In fact the opposite is true. Masons must be givers, not takers; especially so, with regard to knowledge. Information is worth providing to others, as it is with earnest hopes that the knowledge from all fields of life, once communicated will grow and bring a deeper understanding on any particular subject to all. There-in, everyone should have the opportunity to bathe in the light of understanding, and do with it what they will. Many of my favorite philosophers express this view. Specifically, Sir Francis Bacon, who though, being a enigmatic individual, says of the many different conditions that people will find themselves in, prevents them from reaching a fuller potential. But through continuing self-education, the world becomes a little clearer, never mastered, but better understood. In contemporary times, too many of us feel the need to master our environments. Better to understand them first. Niven has spoken similarly, in many of his posts. Regards Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Neil Sinclair [mailto:rinsin@globalserve.net] Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2001 11:57 PM Dear Roy and Joan; I read and totally agreed with your principal and premise about the openness of information, especially as it touches members related to this list. John Liley may be a bit off the mark (with greatest respect to him) on the concept that if something is Masonic it is hence secret. I agree from both the perspective of a Mason and a Sinclair and an individual that has a deep respect for both Rosslyn as an international site of cultural heritage that Rosslyn architecture is an open ended piece of research that is still unfolding. But also I am an intelligent individual who believes "that light and knowledge belong to every generation". That last quotation was from an individual that was a Mason and the President of the American philosophical society by the name of Jefferson. (Clipped post) Neil Sinclair [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html