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The theory of the development of the Scottish broadsword (the Irisch-Hilted sword in England) may have been somewhat overtaken by events, notably the discovery of several Irisch-hilted swords which date to the 1540's, and illustrations of them in the '50's, which predate both the earliset schiavonas and sinclairsabels. The pre-1600 Irisch-hilted broadsword is distinguished from its later cousins primarily by its much longer quillons. It is distinguished from a schiavona or a sinclairsabel by its pattern of three arches, each of three bars. The source for the above is :Claude Blair's Scottish Weapons and Fortifications. Mark Anderson [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@quarterman.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://sinclair.quarterman.org/list.html