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Hello Dean; I have been adding names to the ancestors of John Sinclair , immigrant to Exeter, NH for awhile now, and it does give me fits. One book or site gives data, and another says impossible. I use the site I sent and the "Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens" as bellweathers- at least I'll err on the side of caution and not type myself to death. I've been hoping more people would be interested in the information I've collected to verify and/or correct and add to it. The Earls of Mar are another shadowy line before Donald. And I read that Royal lines were well documented! Take care, Kevin [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html