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Hello List members --- >From MacBain's Gaelic Etymological Dictionary :: clann :: children, clan, so Irish, Old Irish cland, Welsh plant, *qlanatâ: Indo-European root qel; Greek @Gtélos, company; Old Slavonic celjadi@u, family, Lithuanian kiltis = Lettic zilts, race, stock; Sanskrit kúla, race. Some have added Latin populus. Usually regarded as borrowed from Latin planta, a sprout, English plant, whence Gaelic clannach, comatus. SO ----- perhaps we can settle on stock / race /company / sprout / people ???? MAYBE EVEN LIST IS NEUTRAL ENOUGH ??? Since our origins precede the Sanskrit language , should we search even further back in time for a satisfactory term ??? I am reminded of my Latin studies ; SENATUS POPULUSQUE ROMANORUM ; " The Senate and the PEOPLE of Rome " -- perhaps the term "" Sinclair People "' best describes us ???? Niven and John Q. -- you are to be congratulated on your dry humor :) !! Joe Greigg [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@mids.org [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html